Questions asked and Answers given about the Nokia 808 PureView

 Want to know more about the Nokia 808, check out the Q&A session held by the Nokia Connects team:


Nokia Connects:
Hello everyone! Welcome to the Nokia 808 PureView Q&A session. We’ll be joined shortly by lead programme manager Damian Dinning & head of Symbian product marketing, Vesa Jutila.
2:53
   
   
Nokia Connects:
Testing testing
2:55
   
   
THE_TRUTH34:
Look forward to it, and great work
2:58
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Test successful
2:59
   
   
Jim:
Thanks for the invitation.
Hi everyone
3:00
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
Well this should be interesting.
3:00
   
   
Griffith Boniel:
Excited for the camera performance! was blown away by the N8's output. let's see how this one performs.
3:00
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
Thanks for the invitation as well! Chiming in from Thailand
3:01
   
   
Nokia Connects:
Welcome everybody. We'll get started soon :)
3:02
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
Hi all, also thanks for the invite, glad to be participating!
3:06
   
   
Comment From Victor 
Yo
3:09
   
   
Nokia Connects:
Apologies for the slight delay, we'll be with you soon.
3:09
   
   
THE_TRUTH34:
no worries
3:11
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
hello!
3:11
   
   
Griffith Boniel:
hi
3:11
   
   
Jim:
Hi
3:12
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
Howdy!
3:12
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
Hi
3:12
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Hello Team
3:12
   
   
THE_TRUTH34:
hello
3:13
   
   
Nokia Connects:
OK we are ready to start now. Please put your questions to the team in an orderly fashion :)
3:13
   
   
Comment From TaiHT 
What's the maximum ISO of Nokia 808?
3:13
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
First question: Do we have variable ISO here?
3:14
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
Hi TaiHT Maximum ISO is not confirmed just yet.
3:14
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Second Question: Why Front camera is denied the access from the Camera application
3:15
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Nitish Kumar: we want to provide the best possible imaging quality with the product, and due to the wide angle lens it's very easy to capture perfect self portraits in great detail using the main camera
3:15
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Third question: How much powerful the single LED is for video recording? Do the camera unit uses the LED flash in stills as well?
3:16
   
   
THE_TRUTH34:
will we see this type of capabilities on WP and what is the time frame, of it getting there.
3:16
   
   
Comment From seqtre 
When will the 808 be available in the market?
3:16
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
For everyone asking on availability, the Nokia 808 PureView is expected to ship in the second quarter 2012
3:16
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
I can understand that part and appreciate but thats not any reason for denying the access to front camera.
3:17
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
I may be wrong, but it looks like the camera app has tap to focus/ tap to expose a'la iPhone, is this correct?
3:17
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
I hope Nokia PureView would be shipped worldwide at once
3:17
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Yes! Michael, Nokia 808 has touch to focus
3:18
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@THE_TRUTH34: As we've said many times today here in Barcelona, we are planning on bringing PureView technologies to future Nokia products. But we haven't commented further than that.
3:18
   
   
Comment From Mandeep Themes 
does Nokia 808 support macro mode ?
3:18
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
Should US consumers expect the 808 to be available on subsidized contract w/ ATT or Tmobile?
3:18
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
How long has Pure View been in development?
3:18
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
Tap to expose though? Having a spotmeter is EVERYTHING in my experience.
3:18
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@ Nitish Kumar re variable ISO, yes more settings will be available than before
3:18
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
What is this multi-point Multitouch and how Nokia PureView 808 gonna benefitted from it?
3:18
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Nokia_Ninja: We haven't commented on market availability yet
3:19
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Wow! thanks Damian sir.. for your reply.
3:20
   
   
Comment From Sirajsoft 
My first question is about battery. How much shots can 808 take in full charge . And how many minute can 808 take a full hd with full charge
3:20
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
Also, this new camera app looks greatly improved regardless ... will it be available for the N8, even if in just a BetaLabs release?
3:20
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Is Double powered Xenon takes a toll over battery in negative ways?
3:21
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Sirajsoft: we haven't provided exact specifics on those specs, but we can say that we expect the Nokia 808 PureView to have roughly the same battery performance as the N8 when it comes to imaging capabilities
3:21
   
   
THE_TRUTH34:
I just want to commend Damian Dining, and the Nokia 808PureView team, for an amazing announcement and product
3:21
   
   
Nokia Connects:
Hi guys, thanks for all the great questions. We're doing our best to answer all of them, thanks for your patience! :)
3:22
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
What is the average (or typical size range) file size for a photo taken at highest resolution?
3:22
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
We're not seeing too many questions about the oversampling capabilities we've been discussing today. Anyone interested to hear more?
3:22
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
Yes!
3:22
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@[TEChBrits]: re length of development, 5 years, very excited to be able to talk about it today :)
3:22
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
yeah sure.. what is this oversampling actually? Is it interpolation or reverse of it
3:22
   
   
Comment From keirux 
Hi Damian, my question is about the image sensor, how large is it? What are the iso values available on video recording?
3:23
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Nokia_Ninja: it depends the compression, but between 10 and 15 megabites on average at full resolution.
3:23
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
We're very excited to be seeing it today! Incredible piece of technology
3:23
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
I've seen binning technology in scientific CCDs i've worked with (SBIG ST-!0xme, mostly) .. but those are monochrom chips. I'm wondering how you handle the oversampling with a Bayer pattern array ...
3:24
   
   
THE_TRUTH34:
yes please explain about over
sampling
3:24
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
but I suspect that that's a question that might need it's own white paper to answer ...
3:24
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@keirux image sensor is 1/1.2". No manual ISO settings available in video, only stills. But the video in low light is amazing!
3:24
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
(Thnx for the response!)
3:24
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
One important question that I missed is, which GPU chip is powering this Nokia PureView
3:24
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
Do you think this technology will start moving even more 'dedicated camera' users into mobile photography?
3:25
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Nitish Kumar: it's not interpolation, or the reverse of it. Oversampling refers to the use of Nokia PureView imaging technologies to use information from multiple pixels in the sensor to produce one perfect pixel in the photo.
3:26
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Thanks for the reply. Is it possible to get RAW pictures this time at least with Nokia Pureview if someone specifically wishes so?
3:26
   
   
Griffith Boniel:
pureview sounds amazing, but can the amount of RAM coupe up with the demands of the system? i did a photoshoot with the N8 once, used external flash slaved optically, and I experience a lot of "hangs"
3:27
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
Marketing Q: I suspect that the interest in the 808 PV will be good for existing N8 Belle users, with possibly more photo-centric apps for both?
3:27
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@michael_ouzounian thanks for your question. re oversampling the white paper answers that better than I can write here today in limited time. We'll get the link to it soon for you....
3:27
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
Do you guys have a figure in f stops or some s/n ratio how much more light this oversampling gets you compared to @ 41 mpx? How do these figures compare to the N8?
3:28
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
Will you be able to take pictures while video recording? Much like the HTC One?
3:28
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@[TEChBrits]: Absolutely! We believe that today's announcement and further Nokia PureView imaging products will further blur the line between happy snappers and serious photographers.
3:29
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
means more phone coming or Nokia would love to license the tech to other players as well?
3:30
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
Hmm, how many patents are involved with the 808?
3:30
   
   
Comment From cristian2222 
as a costumer and Nseries happy snapper y have a cuestion. are this phone supproting RAW processing or any way to get a full 41mpx photo'
3:31
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@Griffith Boniel re RAM, system is extremely powerful, in video for example the image processing pipeline handles over 1 billion pixels per second!
3:31
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Nokia_Ninja: It's well known that Nokia has a large patent portfolio and there is indeed a lot of intellectual property behind Nokia PureView
3:32
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
Can you guys release who makes the sensor? Is it also Zeiss?
3:32
   
   
Comment From Cristian Trohin 
Here's good one! Does the video recording use the initial accelerometer sensor position(the position the phone was when the it started recording) for setting the videoclip's orientation?
3:33
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
@michael_ouzounian:
Carl Zeiss
3:34
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
Also Im interested in the manufacturing tolerances involved in this ... To be able to get a lens with an aperture only a few mm wide to resolve @ 41mpx is really incredible.
3:34
   
   
Jim:
Would the Nokia 808 user still be able to make full use the video and picture editing build-in software from Symbian S^3?
3:34
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@michael_ouzounian: the optics and lenses are co-developed by Nokia and Carl Zeiss, but not the sensor.
3:35
   
   
Comment From brianlj 
Starting to see questions about the aperture. Is it 2.4 or 2.8 as shown in the sample pics?
3:35
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@michael_ouzounian re low light, we don't have final figures there yet, this is an area we are still working on. Currently the difference is significant. In daylight with full wide-angle/maximum oversampling there is no visual noise in 5mp images, yet the detail is far higher than previous devices
3:36
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Jim: Absolutely! There's never been a better opportunity to these editing tools. We actually have some improvements to the editing software on the Nokia 808 PureView, with a simplified video editor and an enhanced still image editor. You can also crop images directly in the full screen gallery view.
3:36
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
Was there any specific reason Pure View was launched on Symbian over WP7?
3:36
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@brianlj f/2.4
3:37
   
   
Comment From Victor 
The Pure View teaser was a video. So, this 808 is video-centric rather than for photography. Right?
3:38
   
   
Griffith Boniel:
re camera controls. on a shoot i did with the N8, i find that it lacks manual exposure control, and auto exposure lock at half press. will these be available on this device?
3:38
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
[TEChBrits]: We've heard this question many times today of course! This is a great example of how we're still investing in Symbian by bringing innovation on top of that platform. But as we've said today, you will see PureView technologies coming to future products as well.
3:38
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Can we know the name of GPU chip?
3:39
   
   
Nokia Connects:
@Victor - the Nokia 808 has been designed for the full video/imaging experience -(including audio!)
3:40
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Nitish Kumar: We typically don't disclose who our suppliers are of various components. What we can say though is that Nokia was one of the co-developers of the companion chip.
3:41
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@Nitish Kumar re RAW, no raw support but it is possible to capture the full resolution images which correspond to the aspect ratio in use. You can also select a higher quality JPEG setting.
3:41
   
   
Comment From Victor 
Is there a significance to the number 41 to a camera? Why not just 40 or even 50?
3:41
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
So I did the math, this thing can resolve 41mpx with a lens that's 4mm wide? This is a really, really, really amazing piece of technology.
3:42
   
   
Comment From sergiogiogio 
Huge congrats to the team, and thanks for not letting us down Symbian fans.
3:42
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
The "Pure View" teaser mentioned "Pure Depth" will this mean increased depth of field for mobile users?
3:42
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Griffith Boniel: yes
3:42
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
oh thanks :)
3:42
   
   
Nokia Connects:
Our time is unfortunately coming to an end, so please get your final questions in for the guys! Any unanswered questions will be collected and we'll make sure they are responded to at a later date.
3:42
   
   
Nokia Connects:
@sergiogiogio Glad you enjoyed it! :)
3:43
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
Many have lamented the lack of lens protection (ala N82, N95, N900), etc. Are the days of a lens cover gone as a design element?
3:43
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@michael_ouzounian: Thank you! It truly is a revolution in imaging.
3:43
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
I am really looking forward to see a device as capable as N8/808 with WP as Lumia been good but not comparable.. let see
3:44
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@Victor, there will be a post on Nokia Conversations most likley later this week which will tell the story of the developement of the 808, it will answer your question and more :)
3:44
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Nokia_Ninja: today we actually also announced a hard cover accessory with lens cap for the Nokia 808 PureView, for users who value this.
3:44
   
   
Comment From cristian2222 
is this technology similar to the Lytro cameras?
3:45
   
   
Comment From cristian2222 
congratulations to the team, i hope to try this camea phone soon
3:45
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
So my last question is ... will this chip be used by any other manufacturers, or did you guys develop it exclusively with your supplier for the 808?
3:45
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
ie, is it an off the shelf piece or a custom part for Nokia
3:46
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@cristian2222: no, it's not similar. But Lytro is another great example of how you can bring great innovation to imaging. Nokia PureView technologies are unique to Nokia.
3:46
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
One last quesiton as came via Twitter, HDMI output is same is Nokia N8 means 720p or has been enahnced to 1080p?
3:47
   
   
Nokia Connects:
Hi guys, this White Paper on the PureView technology might help answer some of your questions: http://europe.nokia.com/PRODUCT_METADATA_0/Products/Phones/8000-series/808/Nokia808PureView_Whitepaper.pdf
3:47
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@Nitish KumarHDMI output is 1080p
3:47
   
   
Comment From cristian2222 
thanks fo the awnser :D
3:48
   
   
Comment From keirux 
I would love to make some low light video test with this phone, the small size of the puxels is not a bad idea rwgarding with noise in low light? Any new technology in video stabilization?
3:48
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@michael_ouzounian sensor was co-developed by Nokia, it's exclsuive to Nokia. Definitely not an off the shelf component, I can persoanlly testify to that ;)
3:48
   
   
Comment From mbrett 
What kind of capture delay is there based on the higher image size? Also is it possible to burst capture and what is the maximum burst speed?
3:49
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
@ Mr Dinning - I believe you, sir!
3:49
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Shutter lag time? I believe its better than what we seen in N9 or Lumia?
3:50
   
   
Comment From mtorsan 
Just tell me HOW MUCH ? I will send the money NOW for the new 808 !
3:50
   
   
Comment From mtorsan 
Useful info. Txs for sharing.
3:50
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@mbrett you can capture continuously by holding the capture key, there's no dedicated burst mode. Shot to shot in full resolution is similar to N8
3:51
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@Nitish Kumar Shutter lag is now just 0.09 seconds
3:51
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
That's awesome. Remember when Canon was touting numbers like that for the EOS 1n RS from 1993
3:51
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
(for shutter lag)
3:52
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
@Damian Can't wait to have it in my hands along with N8 that served me best till now. You guys are so awesome and lucky at the same time to have it
3:52
   
   
mbrett:
With the Nokia N8 I have been able to use a 3rd Party app to enable burst as well as HDR imagery. Is either to be incorporated into the 808?
3:53
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
Any other hardware or software "tricks" that we may have missed from the announcements (cam related or not?) :-)
3:53
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@mtorsan: the estimated consumer price is EUR 450 before taxes and subsidies.
3:53
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Nokia_Ninja: Lots :-) Please read the whitepaper we sent you the link to.
3:54
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@mbrett we have provided exposure bracketing for the first time, we believe this will provide greater flexibility for use with pc editors which specialise in HDR
3:54
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@all we've also included histogram for the first time :)
3:54
   
   
Nitish Kumar:
Wait wait wait.. what about Panorama shots? I seen Android ICS camera doing great on it, expecting PureView to do even better. Is Panorama mode back in PureView camera app?
3:55
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
VERY excited about that histogram feature!
3:55
   
   
Griffith Boniel:
histogram and bracketing is a nice add. :D how about metering modes?
3:55
   
   
mbrett:
Does the exposure bracketing support 5 as well as the default 3 image cluster? Also, what is the time between capture for each image as this impacts on fuse quality?
3:55
   
   
Comment From Saku 
Is there going to be wearable mounts for action sports?
3:56
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@mbrett: The delay in full resolution mode is roughly the same as the Nokia N8. There is no dedicated burst mode, but you can do continuous shooting by holding the shutter down.
3:56
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@mbrett 3 and 5 frames wtih increment control of 0.3, 0.7, 1.0 and 2.0 EV
3:57
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@Saku: we've also launched a tripod mount that can be used with any standard tripod fix. That's currently the only mount supported.
3:57
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
+ 1 on G. Boniel's question about metering modes ... Like I mentioned before, a spot meter would be a godsend in high contrast situations/at night
3:57
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@Griffith Boniel re metering mode, just the one
3:57
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
Curiously, Is there any significance in 41MP as oppose to 40MP, or 50MP?
3:58
   
   
mbrett:
Along Saku's comment a waterproof case would be nice for snorkling photography with this level of camera quality.
3:58
   
   
Damian Dinning:
[TEChBrits]: 41MP is what we needed to provide optimised 16:9 and 4:3 plus the zoom range we wanted to provide.
3:59
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
@mbrett: Yep! There's a lot of room for 3rd parties to come up with accessories and apps that make the most of this technology.
3:59
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
Will you be able to take photos while shooting video?
4:00
   
   
Damian Dinning:
@michael_ouzounian re metering modes, system is quite centre weighted, use of AE lock works in most situations. Plus the wider range ev control and histogram should help.
4:00
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
Thanks for all your questions guys!
4:00
   
   
Nokia Connects:
Hi guys, thanks for all your great questions! The Q&A session is now closed. We will do our best to make sure everyone's questions get answered. Just keep an eye on Nokia Connects over the coming days! Thanks again :)
4:01
   
   
mbrett:
Thanks for your answers.
4:01
   
   
michael_ouzounian:
Cool. Thanks guys!
4:01
   
   
Jim:
Thanks for the invitation
4:01
   
   
Nokia_Ninja:
Thank you!!
4:01
   
   
[TEChBrits]:
Thanks guys, look forward to seeing more!
4:01
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
We are wrapping up and hope you have enjoyed the Q and A!
4:01
   
   
Nokia 808 PureView team:
goodbye everyone!

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